Rancho Palos Verdes City Council







JUNE 29, 2004

The meeting was called to order at 6:00 P.M. by Mayor Gardiner at Fred Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, and was immediately recessed to closed session with City Council. At 7:10 P.M., the meeting was reconvened for the joint regular session.

Roll call for City Council was answered as follows:

PRESENT: Clark, Stern, Wolowicz, and Mayor Gardiner

ABSENT: Long (excused)

The following were present from the Open Space Planning, and Recreation & Parks Task Force:

Arlene Block, Mike Juneau, Leo Lawson, Sunshine, Lynn Swank, Donald Stephenson, Juan Torres, Lois Vannorsdall, and Jo Woods.

Also present were City Manager Les Evans; Assistant City Manager Petru; City Attorney Carol Lynch; Director of Parks & Recreation Ron Rosenfeld; Administrative Analyst Matt Waters; City Clerk/Administrative Services Director Jo Purcell; and Recording Secretary Denise Bothe.


Councilman Wolowicz led the Salute to the Flag.


Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Mayor pro tem Clark, to approve the agenda. No objection was noted.




Parks, Recreation and Open Space Strategic Plan.

Mayor pro tem Clark highlighted the purpose for defining the scope of work to be accomplished in order to meet the objective that Council had set out for comprehensive input and advice on how to use the City’s parks and open space for the benefit of the entire community; pointed out that this evening is the first opportunity for the Task Force to present its report and to engage discussion by Council, the Task Force and the community on the recommendations in the report; and stated that this meeting was a departure point for a number of sessions that will deal with this broad and comprehensive topic.

Administrative Analyst Waters presented the staff report and the recommendation to approve the Parks, Recreation & Open Space Strategic Plan submitted by the Open Space Planning, and Recreation & Parks Task Force to be used as a guiding document for the future of recreation and open space in Rancho Palos Verdes. Administrative Analyst Waters thanked and commended each member of the Task Force for their hard work, dedication and perseverance in undertaking this challenging endeavor.

Sunshine pointed out that the Trails Network Plan is not a part of the strategic plan; stated that the documents submitted at the Task Force’s May 2004 meeting were not included in this packet; and suggested that the Trails Network Plan not be addressed at this meeting.

On behalf of the Council, Mayor Gardiner thanked the members of the Task Force for their endeavors in helping to design the future of the community.

Mayor pro tem Clark stated that this was an experiment in participative government, noting his desire that the City embrace more community participation and involvement in the future in terms of the City’s assets and resources; and he thanked the Task Force for their efforts.

Mayor Gardiner then asked to hear from the public speakers:

Diana Maltz stated that she is involved in soccer, tennis, swimming and gymnastics; and noted that more playing fields and swimming pool facilities are needed for this community’s youth.

Lani Jackson, Rolling Hills Estates, stated that she participates in competitive sports, and she urged the City to develop more recreational facilities.

Melissa Yefsky stated that she is involved in volleyball, cross country, and competitive swimming sports; and highlighted the problems with limited practice time because of the lack of sports facilities in this community.

Kayla Bazshusrtari stated that she participates in competitive swimming and stated that there is a great need for additional recreational facilities.

Lauren Uba, RPV, urged the City to incorporate into its plan additional swimming facilities.

Peter Malandrios stated that this community needs more swimming pool facilities.

Alana Mayer expressed her belief that Hesse Park should remain a place of serenity and tranquility and that its flora and fauna should be protected.

Deanne Preyer, an RPV resident and a coach with the Zenith Aquatic Program, addressed the need for more aquatic facilities on the peninsula; commented on the limited time scheduled for practice due to stretching the limited resources; and stated that because of this community’s close proximity to the water, it is essential that the youth learn to swim.

Jerry Magner, RPV resident and President of the ZAP Foundation, expressed his perception that this is not a kid-friendly community; stated that the youth have to go off the hill for recreation; and urged the City to provide recreational facilities for the enjoyment of not only the youth, but for the entire community.

Brian Haig, RPV, urged the City not to allow the destruction of the trails in Hesse Park, and stated that he is opposed to any change to this open space.

Wendy Klashman, RPV, commented on the psychological benefits of youth sports; addressed the fairness of providing the same opportunities to the girls that the boys sports currently enjoy; noted her belief that the residents living near the park can find plenty of peaceful and tranquil open space elsewhere on the peninsula, but pointed out that there is not a lot of places on the peninsula that have adequate space for a regulation size ball field.

Lisa Carroll, RPV, stated that she loves the open space in this community, but commented on the need to travel to other cities so that her children can play organized sports; and expressed her belief that the needs of the greater community should outweigh the desires of a small number of homeowners living near Hesse Park.

John Freeman, RPV, stated that he lives near Lower Hesse Park and noted that this park was designed and approved as a passive park with low annual maintenance costs. He commented on the rural feel of Lower Hesse Park and its value to the neighborhood and the community. He expressed his belief that Lower Hesse Park should remain a peaceful neighborhood park and not become a noisy sports complex; and he addressed his concerns with speeding cars around the park and the safety of the children who will be coming to the park to play. He urged the City to protect this coastal treasure that provides a great ocean view and tranquility to those who use this park.

Sharilyn Twidwell stated that she is a coach of an aquatic program and addressed the great need for additional recreational facilities; explained that additional aquatic facilities would not only serve the youth, but that the facilities would also serve people with disabilities and the elderly who greatly benefit from pool workouts and rehabilitation – pointing out that swimming is the only sporting activity some disabled and elderly people can comfortably do. She stated that the existing pools on the peninsula have too many conflicting schedules which make it difficult for the youth to use and that it is necessary to use facilities off the peninsula for recreational sports. She noted that RPV only has one swimming pool available to the public and stated that there is space on the peninsula to build more City sports facilities.

Marilyn Jakubowski, RPV, stated that she purchased her home near Hesse Park with the belief that it was protected as a passive park; and urged the City not to destroy the beauty and peaceful tranquility of this park. She stated that she is not opposed to sports facilities, but expressed her belief that Hesse Park is not the proper place for a sports facility. She questioned that if the City does place the sports facility at Hesse Park, how will the City monitor the nuisance behavior that will negatively impact the neighbors.


Mayor Gardiner recessed the meeting at 8:02 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at 8:08 P.M.

Richard Bara, RPV, Vice-Chair of the Equestrian Committee, stated that he attended many of the Open Space meetings as an observer and noted his appreciation for the work the Task Force has done. He noted his delight to see the Equestrian Park mentioned in the Task Force report and the proposed improvement to the trails.

Deborah Uba, RPV, commented on the need for the youth to travel off the peninsula to play various organized sports; expressed her desire for a multi-purpose recreational facility; and stated that the City needs to keep up with the needs of its growing population. She stated that there are plenty of places on the peninsula for open space enjoyment, but that there is a limited supply of facilities that can be enjoyed by the youth.

Steve Barrett, RPV, stated that he would only support a regulation size softball complex at Hesse Park if it were truly the last alternative in town; and expressed his belief that there are other areas to be investigated, such as Upper Point Vicente where there are not a lot of houses abutting City Hall property. He questioned why other peninsula cities are not being included in this study, noting that many team participants are not RPV residents.

Bernie Slotnick commented on the beauty of Hesse Park and its view; and expressed his desire to see the other peninsula cities participate in the effort to provide youth sports facilities.

Nick Mowlds, RPV, stated that he lives near Hesse Park and said that a prior Council committed Hesse Park as a passive park; and urged the City to take into consideration what the neighboring homeowners will have to endure if this park accommodates four softball fields.

Candy Fletcher stated that it was her understanding Grandview Park has been taken off the short list and questioned what is now planned for Grandview Park and the surrounding property. She inquired if it is being considered for a wildlife preserve. She noted her support for additional youth sports facilities.

Mayor Gardiner pointed out that Council has not yet made any determination for Grandview Park.

Steve Kowalski, President of Pacific View Homeowners Association, noted the large contingent of association members present at the meeting who are concerned with the proposal to consider placing more baseball fields at Hesse Park. He stated that the association is not opposed to adding youth facilities, but that it is adamantly opposed to placing these fields at Hesse Park, particularly in the Lower Hesse Park area. He stated that many hikers and sightseers utilize Hesse Park.

Jim Moore, RPV, explained that the original concept plan for the entire Hesse Park was to include four baseball fields and two soccer fields; and stated that this number was reduced because the developers made a mistake with the size of the fields when they were laid out. He stated that even though Hesse Park does not have a regulation size field, it is well used by individuals of all ages. He stated that expensive sod should not replace the native plants in Lower Hesse Park. He advised that the entire park is ADA compliant, including the trail areas; and stated that the maintenance costs are low. He addressed his concern with pedestrian safety and the traffic around Hesse Park and urged the City to consider another site.

Ken Dyda, RPV, stated that this community belongs to all its residents; commented on the need to update the City’s General Plan; and suggested that Council revisit the original goals report done by the citizens when making its decision.

Clyde Voss, RPV, noted his opposition to a four-field complex at Hesse Park; stated that its beautiful view and peaceful quality should be protected; and commented on the traffic congestion caused by sports complexes and the degradation of property values. He stated that this park should not be altered to fit the needs of a small group of individuals.

Mary Austin, RPV, stated that she purchased her home to be near this beautiful park; noted that she enjoys its open space; but addressed the need for this City to provide adequate sports fields.

Erin LaMonte, RPV, stated that this City does not come close to meeting the national recommendation of providing devoted acreage to parks and recreation; however, it does exceed the standards for open space and urban green space, anywhere from 300 percent to 1,400 percent; and noted her support for looking further at providing these facilities at Lower Hesse Park or Grandview. She stated that she is opposed to placing the fields at Upper Point Vicente; and urged the City to put its properties to good use.

Bob Yassin, RPV, representing the Palos Verdes Art Center, applauded the Task Force recommendation for Upper Point Vicente, believing that it will serve every citizen in the community.

Jeff Malek, RPV, addressed his concern with the unsafe traffic around Hesse Park and stated that more fields at this park will put additional strain on pedestrian and vehicular safety; and he urged the City to consider alternate sites.

Bob Southgate, RPV, stated that he lives across the street from Lower Hesse Park; urged the City not to tamper with Lower Hesse Park, believing that it will adversely impact the lives of those in the neighborhood. He addressed his concerns with the reduction in property values and suggested that because there are no homes located near Lower Point Vicente, that strong consideration should be given to that site.


Chairman Gardiner recessed the meeting at 9:00 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at 9:06 P.M.

Steve Barrett, speaking on behalf of Michael Lowry who was unable to attend the meeting, questioned where the $3.5 million will be coming from; questioned if the girls’ softball organization has agreed to indemnify security, irrigation, and maintenance costs on the fields, and if not, where would these funds come from. Mr. Barrett advised that Upper Hesse Park was originally developed with a softball facility in the southwest corner; that shortly thereafter, it was relocated to the northeast corner because of the crowds, noise, and stray baseballs that hit passing cars. He stated that this park accommodates the AYSO girls’ soccer games and its many spectators; and stated that he would support a facility at this location only as a last resort on the peninsula.

Rafael Gutierrez, RPV, commented on his enjoyment of the tranquility and peacefulness at Hesse Park; and expressed his belief that it is an impractical piece of land to consider for a ballpark because of the lack of a sound barrier and because it is elevated, allowing the noise to easily travel. He addressed his concerns with the impact it would have upon property values.

Steve Hou, RPV, stated that he lived near Lower Hesse Park; stated that he is supportive of providing places for the youth to play, but noted his opposition to placing the facilities at Hesse Park. He stated that the traffic can be dangerous around Hesse Park and commented on several incidents that have occurred. He expressed his belief that there is not enough room for parking in the Lower Hesse Park area for a sports facility and that the parking demand will spill into the neighborhood. He encouraged the City to find a flatter site, such as around the City Hall area.

Bob Alvarado, Co-President of the Palos Verdes Girls’ Softball League, commented on the limited sports resources on the peninsula; expressed his belief that the desire for regulation softball fields is not an unreasonable request; noted that many teams currently share fields with the school district; and he stated that he does not believe the property values will be negatively impacted as a result of a sports facility. He urged the City to help the girls find a home to play their sports; and he highlighted the disparity of funds spent for open space versus parks and recreation facilities.

Marvin Stein, RPV, stated that his home overlooks Lower Hesse Park and noted that he is opposed to the proposal to develop Lower Hesse Park with four softball fields. He stated that the proposal is too large for this neighborhood and urged the City to keep it as a passive park.

Liz Bacalja, RPV, stated that sporting activities is important for social and physical development; noted that more sites are needed in RPV; and noted her support for an aquatic facility at Upper Point Vicente Park. She stated that swimming is very therapeutic for those who are unable to easily move around and asked that the City place a high priority on the need for an aquatic center.

Richard Yuste, RPV, noted his opposition to a sports complex at Hesse Park; and stated that many people of all ages enjoy what is currently available at Hesse Park.

Jim Moore pointed out that the cost of developing Lower Hesse Park is significantly greater than developing the open fields at the area near City Hall; noted that the City Hall property has plenty of parking area, is not near homes and that there is no traffic concern. He urged the City to utilize the small areas for swimming facilities and to use the larger areas for a sports facility.

Gordon Leon stated that he is in favor of the Equestrian Park to be located at the sandbox area of Portuguese Bend; expressed his belief that this area is compatible with the rural nature of the peninsula; and suggested that the Equestrian Committee work out the details and present those details to the City Council for consideration.

MaryRose Yuste, speaking on behalf of Eric Randall who was formerly chairman of the Recreation and Parks Committee, addressed the lack of recreational facilities for teenagers; stated that Grandview Park is the most logical site for a sports complex; and urged the City not to destroy the investment put into Lower Hesse Park.

Margo Sorrentino, RPV, stated that she lives near Lower Hesse Park; addressed her concern with the dangerous traffic in this area; and expressed her belief that the property values will be negatively impacted.

Matt Carroll noted his disappointment with many of the comments by the residents in opposition to placing a sports facility in their neighborhood to be enjoyed by children; and expressed his belief that this City needs to take into consideration the needs of its youth and to provide safe sports complexes. He urged the City to find these girls a home for their sports activities, the same as have been given to every little league boys’ team.

Cathy Webster addressed her concern for the safety of the kids who will be utilizing Hesse Park; commented on the high speed of traffic around the park and the accidents in the neighborhood; and stated that while she has five kids, she does not believe this is an appropriate site for these facilities.

Amy Tsao, RPV, urged the City not to destroy the uniquely peaceful and tranquil setting of Hesse Park, noting that it has become a therapeutic place for many individuals.

Dick Cantine, RPV, stated that he lives near Hesse Park; expressed his opposition to altering Hesse Park for a sports complex; explained that the residents are already impacted several times throughout the year when special events are held at the park; and noted his belief that Hesse Park is not designed for major softball activity. He stated that converting the land into softball fields would severely impact all the other uses that are enjoyed by a diverse population. He noted his support for satisfying the needs of the girls’ softball league.

George Uraguchi, RPV, pointed out that while he served on the Traffic Committee, no one ever complained about the unsafe traffic conditions around Hesse Park; stated that interest in girls’ sports activities is growing and urged the City to accommodate these growing needs.

Michael Neilson addressed his concern that RPV is shouldering the burden of finding girls’ softball fields that will be enjoyed by the other three peninsula municipalities and questioned why these cities aren’t making a joint effort to accommodate this growing need for sports complexes. He noted his opposition to the use of theHe Grandview site and encouraged the City to elicit the expertise of its residents in regard to this issue.

Randy Iwasaka stated that he coached youth sports on the Peninsula for over 35 years; and noted that while this matter has become a divisive issue within the community, the residents need to get behind whatever decision is finally reached. He noted the need for a peninsula wide effort in this regard.

There being no further public input, Chairman Gardiner, on behalf of Council and the Task Force, expressed his appreciation for all the audience comments and participation. He explained that this is the beginning of the process to balance the needs of the community with the City’s resources.

Councilman Stern complimented everyone present for respecting the diverse opinions expressed at this evening’s meeting.

Mayor pro tem Clark echoed the compliments of the audience participants. He explained that approximately two years ago, he advocated with the prior Council that it propose to the other peninsula cities and the Peninsula School District that a peninsula wide committee be formed to deal with peninsula wide issues, such as the needs of the seniors, youth, recreation, traffic, etc.; advised that as a consequence of that suggestion, Council had unanimously supported that initiative, which was forwarded to all three peninsula cities and the Peninsula School District; and noted that the only response received was from the school district, stating that it may be interested. He stated that he is still supportive of a peninsula wide committee that would address issues of importance to every resident on the peninsula.

Mayor Gardiner stated that this City has not given up its interest in this desire for collaboration.

Addressing Councilman Wolowicz’ inquiry regarding the use of the Hesse Park baseball field and Ryan Park, Administrative Analyst Waters stated that the baseball field at Hesse Park is used for practice by the Silver Spur Little League and that Ryan Park is not used by any organized leagues. He stated that Ryan Park is used one day a week for youth volleyball practice and on Saturday for youth volleyball games.

Councilman Wolowicz stated that absent an interest by the other peninsula cities for a peninsula wide committee, he believes it is incumbent upon RPV to make a decision about where to place these facilities; and he moved at this time that Council exclude Lower Hesse Park and Grandview Park from consideration of softball fields primarily because of cost and other issues that the residents addressed this evening. He noted his desire to explore the use of other sites.

Councilman Stern seconded the motion.

Mayor pro tem Clark mentioned that Council had made site visits to the proposed locations for these facilities, which was beneficial to solidify which sites may be viable candidates for a sports complex; and that based upon the evidence, his findings during the site visits and testimony at the meeting, he would support excluding both Upper and Lower Hesse Park and Grandview Park from consideration.

Councilman Wolowicz clarified that his motion did not exclude Upper Hesse Park.

Councilman Stern commented on the comprehensive study that was performed for the suggested placement of softball fields; and stated that a lot of work had gone into the development of Lower Hesse Park and that he would support its exclusion and the exclusion of Grandview Park, pointing out that Grandview has a different set of problematic issues.

Mayor Gardiner noted his support for the motion; and stated that if the motion passed, it should be determined whether removing Grandview from girls’ softball at this time would mean that the City is not going to look at that site again for future recreational facilities. He addressed his concern with placing a softball facility at Upper Point Vicente because of the great recommendations from the Task Force for that property, which tend to conflict with each other. He pointed out that he is not precluding Upper Point Vicente just yet, though.

Mayor pro tem Clark expressed his belief that there are several potential sites that are concrete candidates for a sports facility that a majority of this Council and the community can support; and stated that the Council will help find a home for the girls’ softball league.

Mayor Gardiner explained that focusing on girls’ softball at the moment did not mean that Council would not be addressing other types of sport facilities, such as swimming and equestrian issues.

Hearing no objection to the motion, Mayor Gardiner so ordered its approval.

Councilman Wolowicz questioned the possibility of placing the art center, gymnasium, or swimming pool at the Ladera Linda site.

With regard to the issue of the girls’ softball facility, Mike Juneau stated that the main Task Force recommendation in January, which Council at the time did not approve, was a compromise between the docents and the girls’ softball league to have two softball fields at the Lower Point Vicente site, expressing his belief that it was the best site when considering traffic and grading needs. He noted his support for a number of other sites, such as Upper Friendship Park, Upper Point Vicente, and the Crestridge LLC property.

Sunshine advised that the Task Force determined all requested sports activities could be placed on the Upper Point Vicente site, that it has the room for a high-density sports complex, art center and Civic Center.

Councilman Wolowicz questioned where the City stands as to the interior constraints due to the NCCP preserve area and what affect it had upon the proposal put forth by the Task Force.

Assistant City Manager Petru explained that the final NCCP preserve boundaries for the Upper Point Vicente site had yet to be determined; advised that once the aerial photographs are completed and available, the precise boundaries can be established and a buffer area will be developed according to the design that’s been developed by the Task Force.

Mayor Gardiner suggested the endorsement of Recommendation No. 2 as worded on Circle Page 2, inserting words to reflect the Council’s endorsement of a Civic Center concept; and to determine what impact, if any, this would have on the footprint of the Civic Center concept and the rearrangement of the site, if it will all fit, unless modified or constrained by the NCCP.

Mayor pro tem Clark added that the Civic Center concept would have a multipurpose use for the entire community, many of the uses as identified by the Task Force.

Councilman Wolowicz questioned if there were any last-minute items the Task Force discussed that do not appear on Circle Page 2.

Lois Vannorsdall noted for Councilman Wolowicz that the YMCA was interested in conducting a marketing survey or study of the land, noting that the YMCA has the funding; and that the YMCA cannot go forward with this study unless it has affirmation that the City Council would support its plans.

Mayor pro tem Clark noted his understanding that the YMCA needed a positive signal from Council as to the feasibility of the possible use/creation of a gymnasium facility as part of the City’s plan so they could seriously carry its activity forward.

Mayor Gardiner expressed his desire to support Staff Recommendation No. 2, for the Council to endorse the notion of a multipurpose Civic Center vision, encompassing the components that the Task Force recommended, and to start the process moving forward.

Mayor pro tem Clark moved that a multipurpose Civic Center concept be considered for the Upper Point Vicente site; and that staff start the process of defining that vision in more detail, taking into account the needs assessment and potential uses that had been identified by staff and spelled out by the Task Force and incorporated in staff recommendation.

Lynn Swank stated that the number one request of the needs assessment was for open space; and mentioned that putting all these uses on one site will maintain more open space.

Councilman Wolowicz seconded the motion.

Councilman Stern noted his concern with the proposal for an underground parking structure, but stated that discussion of that would be premature at this time.

With regard to the motion, Councilman Wolowicz questioned if any further discussion would take place regarding the expansion of City Hall or a different Council meeting room.

Mayor pro tem Clark expressed his desire for the current City Hall structure to be looked at for replacement purposes.

Mayor Gardiner questioned if the motion is removing Upper Point Vicente from the list of proposed softball field sites.

Addressing Mayor Gardiner’s inquiry, Councilman Wolowicz indicated that he was not yet prepared to make that conclusion.

Hearing no objection, Mayor Gardiner so ordered the approval of the motion.

Mayor pro tem Clark expressed his desire to see serious consideration of a girls’ softball facility at Eastview Park, wherein three fields could fit; and at Ryan Park, wherein two softball fields could fit. He stated that the fields at Ryan Park could be done quickly and with the least amount of grading in terms of cost and time for construction. He clarified that Ryan Park could be reconfigured to accommodate lacrosse games when it is not being used for softballl.

Councilman Wolowicz stated that he would prefer to see the softball facilities designed so that the center part of the fields could be used for other sports during the non-baseball season; and noted his preference that consideration be given to adding an additional field at the Upper Hesse Park site, pointing out that the original plans called for two fields at this site.

Mayor pro tem Clark noted his support to consider the placement of an additional field at Upper Hesse Park.

Mayor Gardiner asked that staff provide a list reflecting the associated costs for each proposal and funding source.

Mayor pro tem Clark moved, seconded by Councilman Wolowicz, that Council give serious consideration to creating additional girls’ softball fields at Upper Hesse Park, Ryan Park and Eastview Park.

City Manager Evans advised that the County Sanitation District would not give permission for fields at Eastview Park until it makes a determination where its third ocean outfall line will be placed. He indicated that decision could take a couple of years to obtain that permission. He noted that there were two existing lines that run under Eastview Park.

Councilman Stern stated that he would like to see the costs associated with Upper Hesse Park, and stated that Ryan Park is the least accessible.

Mayor pro tem Clark stated that he agrees there are challenges with Ryan Park, but noted his belief that there is room for a second field.

Without objection, Mayor Gardiner so ordered the approval of the motion.

Leo Lawson expressed his support for placing fields at Lower Point Vicente; commented on the telephone assessment needs survey statistics and the community’s desire to maintain open space.

Mayor pro tem Clark stated that maintaining open space is a priority of the Council and commented on the challenge of balancing the needs of this community.

Mayor Gardiner stated that he is not interested in revisiting the Council’s vote on utilizing Lower Point Vicente.


Mayor Gardiner recessed the meeting at 11:15 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at 11:21 P.M.

Councilman Wolowicz noted his preference to see more progress on the Conceptual Trails Plan, believing that it may need to be revisited by the subcommittee or committee in total.

Sunshine suggested that Council might wish to address the 11 items that the subcommittee presented as a motion to the Task Force.

Mike Juneau explained that the 11 items are a base of what needs to be revamped throughout the Conceptual Trails plan to restructure it; and that the committee then needs Council’s direction as to how it wanted to proceed with updating the actual individual trails.

Due to the late hour, Councilman Stern, echoed by Mayor pro tem Clark, suggested that this matter be addressed at another meeting.

Arlene Block noted her desire that Council indicate its support of an Equestrian Park as part of the Portuguese Bend acquisition area, the area not controlled by the NCCP; and she explained that the approximately 17-plus acres would adequately suit an Equestrian Park.

Mayor pro tem Clark stated that he would conceptually support an Equestrian Park.

Juan Torres questioned if Council wanted the Task Force to disband.

Mayor Gardiner asked that decision be clarified and reached at another City Council meeting.

Councilman Wolowicz noted that he would like time to fully study the report before making that final determination.


City Attorney Lynch stated that Council gave further direction with respect to the Cox Franchise agreement; and that no action was taken on the remaining items.

On behalf of Council, Mayor Gardiner thanked the Task Force and everyone else involved for their effort and participation.


The meeting was adjourned at 11:48 P.M. on motion of Councilman Stern.