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FEBRUARY 23, 2002

The meeting was called to order at 9:00 A.M. by Mayor John McTaggart in the Fireside Room at Fred Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, notice having been given with affidavit thereto on file.

PRESENT: Clark, Gardiner, Stern, and Mayor McTaggart
ABSENT: Ferraro

Also present were City Manager Les Evans, and Administrative Staff Assistant Arlene Jaentsch.


Council interviewed candidates for the Planning Commission and Finance Advisory Committee. No action was taken.

Mayor Pro Tem Stern moved, seconded by Mayor McTaggart, to add Public Comments and Council Reports to the agenda. There was no objection.

The Council asked about the plans for interviewing the remaining applicants for the Planning Commission and if it could be accomplished by conference call. The Council discussed the process and philosophy for making appointments.

This portion of the agenda was completed at 1:30 P.M.


Tom Redfield, 31273 Ganado Drive, stated that communication was important and the Coalition Striving to Improve City Government was working hard to get quality people to apply for the Commissions and Committee. He suggested that applicants' qualifications should be discussed in closed session.


At 2:00 P.M., Mayor McTaggart declared a recess. The meeting reconvened at 2:10 P.M.

Discussion of proposed golf course for County landfill area

City Manager Evans presented the staff report of February 23, 2002, with the recommendation to Review the Notice of Preparation (NOP) and related materials, and provide direction to Staff as deemed appropriate. He referenced Joan Davidson’s material.

Councilman Clark said that he had spoken to Rob Katherman about the project in response to an inquiry from Joan Davidson. Mr. Katherman sent him a packet of information, which he will provide to staff.

Councilman Gardiner said that he had discussed the matter with Joan Davidson and encouraged her to bring forth the issue. He believed that there are enough red flags raised; we are gambling with children’s lives; and, we need to have more answers. He felt it was important for the City to hire someone to help ask the right questions.

Councilman Clark assumed that the City of Rolling Hills Estates has already developed some information on this issue that Rancho Palos Verdes may be able to use rather than trying to develop its own information in a very short time.

Councilman Gardiner gave an example of a question to ask: Is adding 200,000 cubic yards of dirt to landfill "leaving it alone?"

Councilman Clark wondered if the question of "leaving it alone" was still relevant and did it apply to the proposed golf use.

Mayor McTaggart suggested drafting a letter to address the following: (1) The impact on air quality and how will fugitive dust be mitigated? (2) The impact of relocating 115 horses from an equestrian facility and the sewering of a new facility. (3) The impact to public safety; public protection should be the responsibility of the County, not the cities; and, a plan should be provided to fund the cost. (4) Without knowing where the ultimate entry will be, how can traffic impacts be addressed. (5) How can the impacts of the facility be mitigated?

Councilman Clark stated that Councilmembers should review the material and send comments to the City Manager.

Councilman Gardiner expressed concern about hazardous materials in the landfill and the consequences should water touch these materials.

Joan Davidson, 1525 Via Arco, Palos Verdes Estates, stated that there is a high level of methane gas coming from the landfill and there is a lot of liquid in drains buried in the landfill. She also said that there is a high water table in the vicinity of the landfill and that corrosive materials have damaged South California Edison lines. She thought that the recent Torrance landslide might have been related to the landfill. (A copy of Ms. Davidson’s letter and attachments is on file in the City Clerk’s Office.

Ken Dyda, 5715 Capeswood, reminded the Council of the nearby Torrance landslide and suggested that Rancho Palos Verdes ask Torrance if they have information related to the landfill and the slide.

Councilman Gardiner pointed out that a portion of the landfill is above the Rancho Vista School site.

Joan Davidson informed the Council that the landfill does not comply with current laws governing landfills.

Councilman Clark asked Ms. Davidson about Rolling Hills Estates’ reaction to her questions.

Joan Davidson replied that she was taking the same information to the Rolling Hills Estates City Council meeting next week. She added that the Palos Verdes Peninsula Unified School District has never been formally notified of this proposal.

Mayor Pro Tem Stern asked if the comment period for the NOP could be extended.

Councilman Gardiner moved, seconded by Mayor McTaggart, to hire an expert to develop questions so that the EIR will address the City’s concerns, to direct staff to prepare a letter including Council input to the Los Angeles County Department of Recreation and Parks and to agendize this matter for the Council meeting on March 11. Motion carried.

The Council also directed that a letter be sent to the County asking for a 30-day time extension for submission of comments on the NOP.

Bob Bush, 6030 Montemalaga Drive, said that he is part of the development team. He reported that the Los Angeles County Recreation and Parks issued an RFP for golf about 1-1/2 years ago and there was one group, Meritage, who submitted a proposal. He stated that the County has no money to build the golf course.

Councilman Clark noted that putting a golf course on an old landfill is not new technology. For example Industry Hills has a hotel and two 18-hole golf courses built on a landfill in the 1970’s.

Authorize Mayor to sign letter to FAA regarding:

(1) Object to redesigned FAA air space at LAX

(2) Enforce the turbo props crossing over the PVP shoreline at 5000 msl

(3) Move more of the turbo props off the PVP and fly them over the ocean and around the PVP.

Mayor McTaggart stated that City needed to learn what the redesigned FAA airspace is and that he understood the redesign allowed flight paths as low as 3500 feet. He stressed the importance of addressing these issues: (1) Rather than merely objecting, it is more important to request documentation on details of the design and to determine how it relates to "free flight." (2) GPS controllers could clarify comments by an LAX employee who said that 3500 msl is acceptable at the shoreline. (3) Reiterate consensus of elected officials that planes fly a minimum of two miles off shore and that no planes fly over the Peninsula.

Councilman Gardiner moved, seconded by Councilman Clark, to direct the City Manager to meet with the Mayor to draft an appropriate letter. Motion carried.


Mayor McTaggart reported that the cities of Palos Verdes Estates and Rolling Hills declined the concept of the Peninsula-Wide Issues Committee. John Flood, Mayor of the City of Palos Verdes Estates felt that the Mayor’s meeting was a more effective way to address issues. Mayor McTaggart suggested that Rancho Palos Verdes meet with the Palos Verdes Peninsula Unified School District and the city of Rolling Hills Estates to form the committee and said that he would provide an update on this topic at the Council meeting on March 11.


ADJOURNMENT: At 4:00 P.M. the meeting was adjourned.